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enileda34173
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Postby enileda34173 » February 20th, 2011 6:27 am

what is the difference between using iyo/yo and ieyo/yeyo? Both are attached at the end of the sentence to make the sentence sounds more polite? so when should iyo/yo be used and when should ieyo/yeo be used?

Also, for i/ga introduce in lesson 24 of newbie season 1, it is used as subject marking particle. Which is the same as eul/reul. Similarly, when should eul/reul be used and when should i/ga be used?

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Postby trutherous » February 20th, 2011 6:31 pm

what is the difference between using iyo/yo and ieyo/yeyo? Both are attached at the end of the sentence to make the sentence sounds more polite? so when should iyo/yo be used and when should ieyo/yeo be used?


My suggestion on this one is to send the first part of your question in a message to the user manyakumi -I'm sure he can explain in detail which to use and when.

Also, for i/ga introduce in lesson 24 of newbie season 1, it is used as subject marking particle. Which is the same as eul/reul. Similarly, when should eul/reul be used and when should i/ga be used?


This part of your question has a minor misunderstanding, the marker particle eul/reul 을/를 is an object marker (receives action) not a subject marker.

It may help you to keep these three pairs in mind 이/가, 은/는, 을/를; to oversimplify:

이/가 - plain subject marker (typically, but not always: passive performer/3rd person)
차가 고장났어요 - The car broke down.
내가 거기에 갔어요. - I went there.

은/는 - contrast subject marker (typically, but not always: active performer i.e. "this subject" does such-and-such, or to show contrast as opposed to, or to a greater extent than some other possible performer of said action)
나는 거기에 갑니다 - I am going there. 나는 거기에 갔어요 - I(regardless of some possible others) went there.

을/를 - recipient of action of the performer:
나는 그녀를 사랑해요 - I love her.
그녀는 나를 사랑해요 - She loves me.

그녀가 나를 사랑한댔어요 - She said 'she' loves me.

내가 - I
나는 - I
나를 - Me

그녀가 - She
그녀는 - She
그녀를 - Her

English has no such markers so in the case of "you" so it can be confusing for Koreans trying learning English:

당신이 - You
당신은 - You
당신을 - You

That makes Korean a bit more precise than English, don't you think?

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Hello enileda34173,

Postby timandyou » February 21st, 2011 2:14 am

Hello enileda34173,
This is Tim from KC101.com.
Thanks for leaving the comment and question.
I have to write a book to clearly explain your question...
HOWEVER, here is one thing you can do for yourself.

Why don't you give a listen to 'Absolute Beginner Season 2 Lesson 3 & 4'?
Those lessons are about 'Subject & Topic Marking Particles' - Lesson 3 & 'Object Marking Particles' - Lesson 4.
I made and created lessons easier for listeners (beginners) to understand that grammatical points.
After listening to them, if you have more questions in your mind, please leave them here again,
I will personally response you.

BTW, George's explanation is very good as well above! "Thank you George!!! :P"
cheers,
Tim 8)

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Re: Korean Grammer

Postby manyakumi » February 21st, 2011 5:21 am

enileda34173 wrote:what is the difference between using iyo/yo and ieyo/yeyo? Both are attached at the end of the sentence to make the sentence sounds more polite? so when should iyo/yo be used and when should ieyo/yeo be used?


There is no functional difference.
ieyo/yeyo is more formal(written) and polite slightly.

However, it would be little bit awkward to use iyo/yo for standing alone statement.
I mean... you'd better use them only for answers.
Because it might sound a bit rude sometimes.

Ex.
A) 안녕하세요, 제 이름은 선재예요. (O) 선재요.(X)
B) 죄송합니다. 성함이 뭐라고 하셨죠?
A) 선재요. (O) 선재예요. (O)

A) 이 티셔츠들 중에 제일 잘 팔리는 게 무슨 색이에요? (O) 색이요? (X)
B) 파란색이요. (O) 파란색이에요. (O)


Hope this helps.
Sean

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Hello Manyakumi,

Postby timandyou » February 21st, 2011 5:56 am

Hello 김 감독님, :P
좋은 답변 감사드립니다.

Hello enileda34173,
Their (George and Manyamuki) explanation is really good! Don't you think so...!?
We are so lucky to have them in KC101.com.
Best,
Tim 8)

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