Chris1 wrote:I originally thought that "them" starts off a noun clause acting as a DO. "What don't you want" -> "them to get my recipes". The infinitive phrase then modifies "them."
Yes, that was what I thought, too; 'them to get my recipe' as a noun phrase and 'them' as the subject of the infinitive phrase 'to get my recipe'.
I am not too sure but I think I have read the same thing an American author of a grammar book said in her book.
However,, when I was in my grade school in Korea, I was taught that the infinitive phrase works as the objective complement, completing the object 'them'.
Like these sentences in the pattern of s+v+o+oc; we consider Pete a good friend. I found the play exciting.
I am sure some ESL students would bring this subject up to you if you would ever get to teach them English one day.
I just wonder how Korean teacher would teach them about this these days.
I guess they are the grader so that any student under them would have to go by their teaching in order to get a good grade.
However, it does not seem to be a noun clause and it appears that the infinitive phrase is an object:
What don't I wan't them to do? -> Get my recipies.
There is one object 'them' there. So if the infinitive phrase is to be another object, it should be the direct object with 'them' as the indirect object, like this; I asked him this question.
Now, we have the three possibilities here, 'them to get my recipe' as a noun phrase with infinitive modifying them, 'them' as direct object and the infinitive as indirect object, and them as indirect object and the infinitive as object complement.
Which is it?
#2. In 'you are encouraged to report negative side effects', infinitive phrase 'to report' works as object or modifier?
Object.
The problem here is that the sentence is passive with the no show object which is to encourage 'you' if this sentence is turned back to active sentence, like this; they encourage you to report.
So, 'to report' cannot function as an object in that passive sentence.
However, if 'encouraged' is treated as past participle working as 'adjective', then the following infinitive can be adjective complement, a modifier of adjective working as adverbial phrase.
If object, you can translate it using '는것' like this; 보고하는것을(O) 권면합니다(V)
If adjective, use '도록', 보고하도록 요청 됩니다
#3. Sorry, we can't afford to give out free toasters anymore.
Does 'to give' work as object?
Yes-Object. Ask: What can't we afford to do?
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This one I got confused with this kind of sentence; they were certain to win, infinitive 'to win' working as adjective complement, modifying the adjective 'certain'.
I hope you don't mind answering again.
I am a forever ESL student.